Saturday, January 06, 2007

Have A Dog In This Fight ?

If you've been watching any news you know that Hamas and Fata are busily killing each other in Palestine, in the latest a Hamas militia surrounded the house of a Fata commander Col. Muhammad Gharib killing eight. On Wednesday 5 died, on Thursday 60 were wounded including 10 children, they're getting right with the program. Both sides promise more of the same all the while saying their guns should be pointed at the Israelis. Some miles away, in Iraq, Arabs are involved in the same occupation of whacking each other, and the reasons don't seem a lot different.

You'd think the BushCo would be able to see that far away and get some kind of realistic input. The Palestinians actually have a common enemy - Israel - and yet they'd rather shoot each other up. Neither place has any particular experience with participatory democracy and even less with the concept of compromise and the results play themselves out on a daily basis. Their political solutions are at the business end of a bullet, or bomb. In Iraq we've exchanged a bloody minded despot for the tyranny of violence as politics by supposedly represented constituents, Palestine's methodology. I'm sure that tracing the course of frustrated aspirations and the history of violent oppression and resistance makes some of their patterns understandable and throw in their theocratic tendencies to get an outcome that's almost inevitiable. Why it is, then, that the Neocons and BushCo couldn't see today's Iraq barreling down the track?

It is not in the least racist or bigotted to state that the Arab version of Islam is theocratic in nature and by many interpretations, murderous. For the politically correct spinners of religious equality, Spain's Catholic Inquisition was theocracy at its finest, much less deal with the theocratic Crusades or - on and on. George II is a theocrat at heart and cannot see the obvious and inevitable consequences of indulging in it. Theocracy always trumps knowlege and history, it can only thrive on ignorance and superstition. There is no place within history that those qualifiers do not also result in muderous behavior. Be under no illusion that the versions of Islam in operation in the Middle East are somehow more debased than the vile versions of Chritianity practiced by US White Supremacists or some of the "fundamentalist" Christian Right, what they do not have is the power structure to indulge their fantasies.

Squealing, "unfair religious bigotry" at me is stupid, I will state unequivocally that the actual words spoken by these religions founders might actually be the basis for a much improved life. The problem lies with the politicization of their messages, many of the Books of the New Testament are nothing more than political power texts as are many of the passages surrounding the Koran. As these churches achieved political power their essential messages became perverted by the necessities of maintaining and enhancing that political power. There is a reason for a fence between secular and spiritual, that fence protects both but primarily the spiritual. I defy anyone to take the actual quotes of Jesus Christ and use them to back the anger and agenda of the Christian Right.

The deliberate cynical usage of the politics of religiosity by BushCo should have educated them in its propensity for mindless fanaticism, it should only have been a short step to understanding the brutality of its operation as government in the Middle East. The Sauds are family friends of George II, he kisses them and hold hands with them, their experiences with the Wahabbi sect surely are not secrets from him. Suppressed, ignorant, superstitious theocrats are dangerous murderous thugs. Why, exactly, we have a dog in any of these fights is beyond me.

6 comments:

John Eyler said...

While the Libertarian in me agrees that "we" have no real dog in any of these fights, the problem of the Middle-East will never go away by ignoring it. Bush "1" did ignore it. He left Saddam in power. American policy during the cold war even supported the Dictators which I think was a huge mistake. Bush "2" heard all the reasons why not to go to Iraq but in the end I believe he led us there on a doctrine that we must try to civilize the region. When a people are ruled by tyrants it's not really their culture thats killing them, its their leaders. Bush told us from the beginning that it would be a long ugly slog. He just didn't agree it was impossible.

Chuck Butcher said...

I believe that in this particular case culture and politics are the killers, no one factor is sufficient for the bloodiness of their behavior. One needs to keep in mind that there is an impulse to back away from such consequences, they are accellerating.

I don't say this could not have been pulled off, but certainly not the BushCo way. Best would have been to mind the Constitution and leave them alone in the first place.

Anonymous said...

Bush told us from the beginning that it would be a long ugly slog.

HEY YOU LEFTIST JERK!!!!

SEE ABOVE!

Ignore them??? WTF!!!

OUR COLLEGES ARE FULL OF THEM (PSU IN PORTLAND IS A KNOWN HOTBED OF SLEEPER CELL ACTIVITY) THE CITY OF PDX EMPLOYS THEM. MAYBE NOT IN BAKER CITY CHUCKY BOY,BUT IGNORING THEM WILL GET YOU KILLED, YOU FIRST. ONE PISSED OFF NON BUSH KOOLAID DRINKER POSTING IN PDX.

Chuck Butcher said...

The contrast between John and "one pissed" is obvious and ludicrous. Hey, "one" you mention a number of places, but I don't seem to see Iraq as part of their mailing address, in fact it's USA.

To stick around it is not required to agree with me, if that were the case I'd just turn off the comments. It is necessary to engage in somewhat civil discourse, ie: lose the CAPS, lose the threats, and lose the name calling, and give yourself a name.

John and his kind of commenting is welcome at any time, "one" you have been warned to fix your stuff. I've already had to deal with this crap, there are blanks in several comment sections.

Anonymous said...

Bush told us from the beginning that it would be a long ugly slog.


What more is there to say!

Anonymous said...

I know for a fact, that PSU IS A HOTBED of sleeper cell activity, in fact, in the near future, you will see the JTTF "CLEAN HOUSE!"

Oh my GOD ,the dreaded JTTF!