tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22183958.post114215297007153938..comments2023-12-24T15:36:16.969-05:00Comments on Chuck for ...: Immigration and 19th Century Robber-baronsChuck Butcherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13656874242638324636noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22183958.post-1143694766175510942006-03-29T23:59:00.000-05:002006-03-29T23:59:00.000-05:00Here's the deal, some people have made gawd awful ...Here's the deal, some people have made gawd awful amounts of money from the crushing of 3rd world labor. Some was US imperialism, yes, most is due to the corruption, racism, and plutocracy endemic to those countries. Show me a country that Spain, Portugal, or France has had a hand in that isn't a complete mess.<BR/><BR/>The consequences of illegal entry have been known all along, they took that risk to prosper (realitively), so now that there's 11 million it's fine?<BR/><BR/>The problem with trying to assign guilt and blame to the US is that the folks who never got anything out of it will get to pay and they not only don't want to, they shouldn't.<BR/><BR/>The motivations of the fleeing peasants is of little to no interest to the US labor that's getting smashed, and for 2 reasons, 1) they got no benefit 2) they're getting screwed by the "in-source". Heartlessly selfish? Well somebody is and is getting over real well.Chuck Butcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13656874242638324636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22183958.post-1143631721776628082006-03-29T06:28:00.000-05:002006-03-29T06:28:00.000-05:00your situation points out what's really awful abou...your situation points out what's really awful about this problem, Chuck. the workers who are here illegally are not here to steal jobs or take away from Americans; most of them just want to take care of their families. they want money for a home, school for the kids, a better life; i am positive most of them would love to return home -- if they had something decent to return to. shutting our borders does not fix the real problem, anymore than Reagan kicking the mentally ill out into the streets took care of that.<BR/><BR/>before we can deal with the problem of illegals in this country, we need to undo the century-plus of damage American capitalist imperialism has done to the countries these folks are coming from. we need to take strong actions, not against impoverished people trying to make a better life, but their governments and the multinational corporations that profit off both ends of the misery. i hate that you and the legal extranationals suffer from this problem, but the problem is not the illegals. they are just a symptom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com